The Drake equation relies on what ever you put into it, pick a number. The most advanced civilizations control the energy, etc of an entire universe. Travel for them is not hard, sorry. To say the Fermi Paradox is "debunked" is laughable at best. So where are they ? The most logical reason is not because they are playing peek-a-boo with us etc., it's that they are not there, facts is what I love.