So, I'm not sure what was going on with your side Tawok but there was no " bitching and whining" on our side at all. Hell, we were down like 1 to 4 in rounds and came back to win, that was the 1st room of the night, then we went to Xroads where noob tubes and tking started happening like 3 rounds in and destroyed the room. So, I'm a little lost when you say the REAL killer was people bitching and have to disagree. You will have to be specific cause I didn't hear any of that until Xroads and that was with good reason. I like Swill's idea and agree we can be a little more organized. Here's a suggestion along those lines... We call out the roomname, maps and team capts in a roll call thread like Swill says and THAT is the room and people in charge. And just a final thought and opinion, the last thing we should be concerned with after all that is created with the room and everything is set up, is streaming. Personally, I don't give two shits if we stream or not, but I do see why and the need to, so we can show others the game is still alive. But, I also think if we don't have streaming that should NOT be the decider if we play or not. For me, that is not Socom.