Well I've given up any hope that fanboys on Socom.com will ever get in touch with reality so I won't be bothered with that site anymore. They will fight to make sure Socom fails, fight against a CON sequel adding any more Socom features then the first had cause in their mind they think they are defending it when fighting against what the fans request. As I've said before, some community members are simply dropping their standards because of how bad S4 turned out and so now suddenly CON was a great game as is, didn't need any more Socom in it jsut the bugs fixed. There's some trying to argue that most fans loved CON and there's just a few rogue "vets" on the forums who weren't happy with it like everyone else supposedly. Since even cold hard facts are ignored by guys with the triple thick lens fanboy goggles on who will naively cheerlead another bad Socom into the ground and kill off the franchise for good, I will try to push the point here of why it's vital we push for the full feature sets of the classic Socom games if a CON 2 happens and why it would be unwise to stick up for the fanboys who argue against it simply cause you see them as a friend or "not a bad guy" etc. Those trolls fighting against Socom features have to be isolated and it has to be made clear that they do not represent most of the community. The majority of the community thought CON 1 was trash and won't be impressed or think of picking up a CON 2 without drastic improvments. Now for those who may have forgotten, I'm going to bring you back to a time before people knew what trash Socom 4 turned out to be. The day it was announced on blogshare. I am going to comb through the entire comment section and I am going to copy and paste every comment that mentions "the last Socom" and how people felt about it when commenting on the S4 comments section. I will paste both the good and the bad comments that mentioned CON and you guys decide if you think outside the niche forum goers a CON 1 will sell well to the rest of the community who don't frequent forums every day adn aren't as desperate for just any Socom thrown in a box. If there is a CON sequel it's going to have to do a lot to impress cause people outside daily forum goers aren't as forgiving or as easily duped to run out and buy just any crap Socom game. I actually quit before getting through all the comments it was just too much but it's worth noting that in the time I got to like 67 negative comments about CON I found only 6 saying something positive about it and of those six, at least four say CON was their first Socom. The point is guys this is just a small sample size of the fact that CON turned off a large majority of Socomers. We really have to try to push for as many Socom features as possible. Most of the names these comments were made by were not people I recognize as forum people. There's a lot more Socomers out there, the fanboys are trying to pretend they don't exist but the majority is clear. Browse the comment section of the S4 announcement yourselves. After S4 turned out so bad some have now tried to put CON up on a pedestal but some need a memory refresh of how it was widely viewed. Many felt CON wasn't a Socom game, the fact that S4 was less of one won't make CON feel any more like Socom to the fanbase then it was the first time. They really need to get most of those features in there. Here are all the negative comments mentioned about CON in the S4 announcement: 1) Thank the Gods it’s Zipper. 2)I hope this is nothing like what Slant Six released. 3)Hope it’s better than the last one. 4)Slant Six added so much useless crap in Confrontation that nobody wanted or cared about, Sony really dropped the ball with Socom when we’re the most dedicated fanbase. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO REDEEM THE SOCOM NAME. 5)Zipper please look at Confrontation as an incentive for making this Socom good. 6)So i guess you’re just hoping everyone has forgotten the horrible, horrible mess that was and STILL IS Slant 6′s SOCOM: Confrontation? How do you (Sony and Zipper) plan to entice me to come back to this series after being burned so badly? 7)Say goodbye to crappy SOCOM: Confrontation! Woot. 8)Confrontation left a VERY bitter taste in my mouth, I hope this changes that. 9)Also Sony, make sure you make clear that last SOCOM wasn’t done by Zipper! Everyone is already going “I wonder if it’ll be as crap as last one…” 10)AWESOME!!!! Great to see the SOCOM franchise back in the right hands! 11)Zipper is the best Video Game Company when it comes to shooters and Socom.Confrontation is washed up now just like /? 12)Zipper making it = better than slant sux= happy me 13)@41: By being from Zipper. That should be good enough, but I feel your pain. Confrontation set the franchise way back. 14)HELL YA!!!! ZIPPERS BACK BABY. For those of you have only played Socom on the PS3 you are now going to get to know what Socom is really about. Slant Six just murdered the game these guys worked so hard to create. I am definitely buying this when it comes out. In fact going to pre-order this weekend if Gamestop will let me. 15)SOCOM 4 ZOMG!!!!! I love you Zipper thank you so much for returning to Socom………….. Zipper > Slant 6 16)@65 – Being by zipper doesn’t refund the $60 i plunked down for S:C day 1 17)I was very disappointed with the latest SOCOM. 18)Please Jeff, please please please please please please please please PAHLEEEZZZ!!!! tell them that it is not SOCOM without USER CREATED RANKED ROOMS 19)You don’t even know how much this means to us hardcore socom fans. Confrontation was a disgrace to the franchise and it’s time to bring Socom back to glory. 20)I don’t usually comment but this is one of the best news I’ve heard in a while. Confrontation seemed lackluster and out of place, but with Zipper back in command I know it will be a quality game I’ve come to expect. Heres to hoping its as great as 2 and 3! 21)Socom 2 is what got me into playing online games. I’ve enjoyed a few since but still haven’t found anything that fit me like Socom 2.The other Socom on PS3 was a joke and I didn’t even bother with it after playing the beta. MAG seems fun, I have yet to buy it though thanks to little free time an online shooter needs.Just wanted to say thanks and I hope Socom 4 brings back what made me fall in love with online shooters to begin with! 22)Woot, finally a true SOCOM game! Sorry Slant Six, that mess Confrontation is now a bad memory. 23)Awesome. As long as /6 isn’t the dev of this game, I will try it out. 24)Thank GOD SOCOM is off S6 dirty hands. Do not let S6 handle SOCOM ever again please. Zipper <3. 25)i hope you guys dont follow the /6 route and put stupid armor types in this stay true to your roots. seth luisi if you have any involvment in this DONT F#%* IT UP! 26)THANK YOU!I wanted to like confrontation. I really really did but..man….it just wasn’t cutting the mustard. 27)This franchise is a playstation legend. Real PS hardcores like me have been playing socom since it’s first entry.Granted,Confrontation was a bust, but I’m looking forward to this latest entry. 28)I just hope it is better than SOCOM Confrontation. I Spent 70 dollars on the mic bundle and it looked and played like it had a lot of potential but it just didn’t for fill what the series is known for. 29)i hope you will do a better job than slant 6 did on socom 30)Great to hear that the real SOCOM is finally back!!! 31)I was waiting for the next OFFICIAL (/6 socom confrontation is crap) for a while. Thanks zipper! 32)he first SOCOM was the first game I ever played online on PS2, I loved it. Confrontation didn’t have the same feel, but since you guys are developing it, I’m sure it’ll be much better. 33)sorry to say this, but I’m not excited for this, and after seeing how horrible Socom confrontation is, no thanks 34)Some of you kids need to do your homework before you go posting negative comments about the SOCOM (the real SOCOM franchise.) Confrontation was coded by SLANT6 thus the half-assed-made-for-PSP-presented-on-PS3 silliness they tried to pass off as part of the SOCOM family, and as proof by comments, vandalizing and damn near ruining the SOCOM franchise. 35)not so surprising but im definitely looking forward to the return of the true SOCOM franchise 36)Can’t wait to fix my addiction to SOCrack once again after Confrontation turned out to be chalk dust. 37)OMG THIS IS AMAZING NEWS!!! I was a SOCOM 1 and 2 FANATIC and logged THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of hours online playing.To hear that Zipper will be developing this game gives REAL HOPE for the true diehard SOCOM fans (minus confrontation ofcourse) that we will finally get the SOCOM experience that we had ‘back in the day’ on the PS2. 38)Looking forward to learning more about this. Lets not repeat /6 ok? Thanks. 39)THANK GOD ZIPPER HAS THIS BACK. Now, I want to see this put Confrontation to shame! 40)I’d like to propose that SONY offer free SOCOM 4 DLC if it is detected that you played SOCOM : Confrontation on your machine. I plunked down $50 bones on a VERY disappointing entry into the SOCOM world and for Zipper to get me and many other back you need to make it worth my while.Sorry but that is reality. Why SONY let someone mess with the SOCOM name is beyond me 41)So, Slant Six has nothing to do with this project, thank God! 42)Finally Socom has come back to the hands of Zipper 43)Thank you very much! I’e been waiting very long for this. Zipper please make your game, nothing was EVER wrong with Socoms gameplay scheme, it was just lag and framerate issues that brought S3 down. Please do not cange stuff like Slant Six had the nerve to do. We love Overtime rounds and d-pad lean.. AND NOT RUN Button, and our old ranking system. Plz make Socom like Socom and don’t try to make it like these other games. 44)Ok, Zipper! I’m so glad to hear this. With the bad experience I and many others had with Confrontation, I sugest you come with 8×8 rooms and more maps than just half the maps from Socom 2 like Slant 6 did. Other than that, I’m sure you know Socom a lot better and you’ll deliver. 45)i love the socom series, except for confrontation.. 46)Please make Socom 4 everything that Socom:Confrontation was supposed to be. 47)i hope is better than SC 48)SOCOM is a great series that just fell into the hands of some inexperienced developers. Now that it’s back where it belongs in Zipper’s hands, expect to see the SOCOM series deliver what fans have been yearning for since Zipper’s last SOCOM game. 49)Sweet, can’t wait. I never really played Confrontation and sold it to Gamestop shortly after buying it. Lets go old school! 50)thank u god zipper is back to SOCOM 51)Im a big fan of the SOCOM series on the ps2… But when slant siz took over with socom confrontation i was sourly dissapoinnted. Realy happy it’s Zipper, please do all u can to bring SOCOM back 52)Well, we knew about this a long time already. nice to know it’s official, i guess. You all are still not forgiven for letting slant6 join the family. Redeem yourselves. Truly listen to your fans. 53)thank you zipper for working on a socom for PS3 project, slant 6 sure did horrible job at socom confrontation. 54)Zipper, please never leave us again. I thought I would never find another 3rd person shooter. God im so happy it isn’t funny. 55)Hey slant six if your viewing this blog post from zipper you better start crying now cause everyone is going to move away from your crappy game socom confrontation over to zippers socom 4 56)thank jebus! please save us from the hell Slant6 has brought upon SOCOM fans! 57)does this mean sony took away the contract from crappy slant six? if so smart move sony 58)Sony should give everyone that owns the PSN version of Confrontation a free copy of Socom 4. 59)I’m not worried about the turn out of SOCOM IV, because this company know what the players have been looking for after what happened with thiss last SOCOM for PS3 that gave the series a bad name 60)I can’t wait for this game. I’ve been wanting an actual Socom title since the PS3 was announced. 61)Now we all just have to wonder will SOCOM 4 bring back the warm and fuzzies of all night gaming when SOCOM 2 was out or will we see something like confrontation or similar to SOCOM 3. 62)Out freaking standing!!! The last Socom was a big let down for me 63)I would have never been content with this gen if SOCOM 4 never came. 64)Wow a REAL Socom with a REAL developer? This is very interesting. I will keep an eye on this one. 65)SOCOM 4 has to be about the best news I’ve heard in a while. I’ll admit the only reason I bought a PS3 was for SOCOM Confrontation.. to say the least, I was a bit disappointed. 66)Great news, bringing it back home where it started… just PLEASE… don’t stray from the originality that is SOCOM. No TILLY… GLADYS… we don’t want a smaller caliber sniper rifle that is better than a .50 cal sniper rifle. I mean really? Go zipper go! 67)Dont let /6 help you guys. Here are the positive mentions of CON in the S4 announcement: 1)The first socom I played was Confrontation, I liked it. So I cant wait to see what this new one brings to the table. 2)Wow that looks absolutely gorgeous. I liked SOCOM: Confrontation, but the “vote to kick” feature ruined it for me because of people would abuse it. 3)I am really excited about this. My first experience with SOCOM was SOCOM: Confrontation. Fun multiplayer but needs single player or at least training missions like Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising and Escalation. 4)Im kinda sad that socom confrontation will not be getting any more dlc though. Ever since cold front socom has been incredible 5)This is great news. Confrontation was my first Socom, which as any Confrontation player knows is a bittersweet experience at times. I cant wait to play one made by zipper 6)Is this a game made by just the team at Zipper or are Slant 6 tagging along. I know you (Zipper) are the creator and the reason I ask this is because I was wondering if you both will be working on Socom 4 to make a really cool game.I liked in Socom: Confrontation there was an over the shoulder view. It was not first person and I really liked that. Will that way to play Socom 4 be in the game?